There is much about global warming political correctness which is depressing
But occasionally there can be a great deal of fun – especially when a self-appointed priest gets called out and loses it.
Bishop Hill (Andrew Montford) reports on a recent lecture by Dr. Rob Wilson of the University of St Andrews where he addressed millennial temperature reconstructions and where Michael Mann and his Hockey Stick and his picky reconstructions came in for some serious criticism:
When we got onto Mann et al 2008, we learned about the silliness of the screening process, and students were invited to try screening a set of random generated timeseries in the way Mann had gone about this study. Tiljander didn’t get a mention, but I guess there are only so many flaws one can take on board, even in a two-hour lecture.
The real fireworks came when Mann’s latest papers, which hypothesise that tree ring proxies have large numbers of missing rings after major volcanic eruptions, were described as “a crock of xxxx”.
But the fun and games comes in the comments to Montford’s post.
Mann was not amused. (He never is – but now he was decidedly shirty).
Rob Wilson was himself one of the commenters and had no complaints about any inaccuracies in the post and added some explanatory comments and references.
“The sh*t then hit the proverbial fan”
Mann started tweeting and retweeting and then deleting his less than diplomatic tweets and in general started “stirring the sh*t”.
Manns deleted tweet:
Mann has already started twitter-marketing this blog post 🙂
‘Closet #climatechange #denier Rob Wilson, comes out of the closet big time: http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2013/10/21/wilson-on-millennial-temperature-reconstructions.html … #BadScience #DisingenuousBehavior’
Oct 21, 2013 at 1:47 PM |Espen
That tweet has since been deleted. Commenter Skiphil added a compendium of the Mann tweets
Michael Mann’s outpourings on Twitter have dug his holes deeper, even as he struggles to explain himself. Now he is denying that Rob Wilson’s criticisms are offered in “good faith” —
@dougmcneall I have no problem w/ good faith criticism. But I don’t see Rob Wilson’s latest as falling into that category 😦 [emphasis added]
Mann tweets from more recent to earlier in the day (reverse of the order in which they appeared):
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 6h
@flimsin @dougmcneall Fair enough Tamsin–lets leave it there. Apologies if I appeared to question your motives. For the record, I do not!
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 6h
Awful blog piece (http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2013/10/21/wilson-on-millennial-temperature-reconstructions.html …) may well have misrepresented Rob Wilson’s views. I suspend judgment, pending his disavowal of it..
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 6h
@dougmcneall @flimsin Just 2B clear, I consider Tamsin’s commentary 2B in good faith. I don’t question her integrity, just her views!
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 6h
@flimsin @dougmcneall No problem, didn’t mean to imply any motive Tamsin, but simply that the reinforcement mechanisms favor contrarianism..
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 7h
@dougmcneall @flimsin those mechanisms act regardless of motive. But often they do not serve the public discourse well (2/2).
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 7h
@dougmcneall @flimsin u were wrong. Was pointing out that positive reinforcement mechanisms actually favor taking contrarian position (1/2)
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 8h
Rob Wilson not a climate change denier but has played a contrarian role in debate…
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 8h
@AnsonMackay @flimsin just a statement of fact, not of motive..
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 8h
@dougmcneall I disagree w/ that, as do many climate change communicators
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 8h
@dougmcneall @flimsin Not talking about that. Talking about Rob Wilson talk. Tamsin piece was honest but misguided, as I said at the time.
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 8h
@dougmcneall I have no problem w/ good faith criticism. But I don’t see Rob Wilson’s latest as falling into that category 😦
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 8h
@flimsin nope wasn’t imputing motives.
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 8h
@flimsin Was widely viewed as attack on colleagues like James Hansen for speaking out publicly.
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 8h
Greatly uninterested in twitter was w/ those who seem far more concerned about scientists “tone” than rebutting disingenuous attacks. #Sad
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 8h
@flimsin No doubt your attacks on colleagues over what you call “advocacy” has raised your profile greatly in recent months.
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 8h
@flimsin Tamsin, I don’t need to be lectured on “tone” by you, of all people. Uninterested in a profile-raising twitter debate w/ you.
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 8h
@flimsin Please see the PAGES 2K link that I tweeted. That’s the most basic rebuttal to the sort of nonsense spouted by Rob Wilson.
Michael E. Mann @MichaelEMann 8h
@flimsin Not for criticizing my work, but for apparently regurgitating #denialist drivel by the likes of McIntyre etc.
Oct 21, 2013 at 11:20 PM |
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